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Richard Fowler is not related to Richard Quatremain or Sybil Englefield at all, I believe he was left the Rycote Estate by Richard and Sybil and lost it gambling. I have a list of all the owners of Rycote. Syd Quarterman ----- Original Message ----- From: "John S. Quarterman" <jsq@quarterman.org> To: <quarterman@quarterman.org> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 5:37 PM Subject: Quatremayne of Thame and Fowler > Nancy Reu has provided some pictures of tombs in Chalgrove and Thame. > > http://www.quarterman.org/pictures/mandreu/index.html > > There are many interesting questions about the people represented. > > For example, how was Richard Fowler, who appears in brass on the > same tomb as Richard and Sybil Quatremayne, related to them? > > Here's another version of the brass of Richard Quatremayne, > councillor to Richard Duke of York and to Edward IV, 1478 engr. > c. 1460, Thame, Oxfordshire: > > http://www.mbs-brasses.co.uk/pic_lib/York_Thame_Brass.htm > > He appears to have been one of the more prominent supporters of the > House of York in the Wars of the Roses: > > http://www.mbs-brasses.co.uk/pic_lib/Picture_Library-THE_YORKISTS.htm > > Richard Fowler d. 3 Nov 1477 was Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, > according to Matthew Adams Stickney in his book The Fowler Family. > Richard Fowler's mother was Cecily Englefield who married William Fowler. > > Richard Quartermayne's wife's maiden name was Sybil Englefield. > Cecily Englefield's first child's name was Sibilla Fowler. > Her second child was Richard Fowler the future Chancellor. > In other words, neither of her children were named for herself > or her husband; instead they have the names of Richard and Sybil > Quartremayne. So perhaps Sybil and Cecily Englefield were sisters. > If so, Chancellor Fowler was Sybil Englefield Quartermayne's nephew. > > And indeed, according to Rev. Frederick George Lee in his > The History, Description, and Antiquities of the Prebendal Church of > the Blessed Virgin Mary of Thame, In the County and Diocese of Oxford, > etc., they were sisters. I think William Fowler Carter in his book > The Quatremains of Oxfordshire agreed with Lee on this point. > Does anyone have a copy of the Carter book handy to check this? > > Amusingly enough, Sibilla Fowler married Sir Thomas Danvers, > and Richard Fowler married Joane Danvers. Danvers siblings? > Yes, and their grandmother was Matilda Quatremayne, sister of > Richard (according to Lee and Carter). > > Richard and Joane Quatremayne's son was named Sir Richard ``Quartermayne'' > Fowler. The middle name may have been just an nickname. > This Sir Richard inherited the Manors of Rycott and North Weston, > and later sold Rycott. He had eight children, after which I lose > track of them. > > The names Fowler and Danvers pop up again a hundred years later > in Massachusetts. Same Fowlers and Danvers? I don't know. > > John S. Quarterman <jsq@quarterman.org> > [ This is the Quarterman family discussion list, quarterman@quarterman.org > [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.quarterman.org/list.html [ This is the Quarterman family discussion list, quarterman@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.quarterman.org/list.html